It is perfect for fox and rabbits, especially if you handload. Bad experience can come from wounding an animal with to smaller caliber aswell that may put her off for life. I am not a fan of 223 for deer. I went out last night to learn some gun safety and had the opportunity to fire at some targets with a 223, 220 and 270, now the .223 just felt really nice to shoot with and it has me wondering if i should change my application form from a 243 to a 223. The 5.56 is simply the military designation for the 223! 55 gn is the most common for everyone to buy but by no means do you have to shoot that weight. Several of these experimenters necked up the .223 Remington to 6mm as the .243 inches (6.17 mm) caliber bullets provided better external ballistic performance over .224 inches (5.69 mm) caliber bullets. Bolt action rifles, lever action, pump action, self loading rifles and other miscellaneous longarms. Local area here most go with a .243 for coy doggies over even a 22-250 just due to the afternoon wind factor. Posted by 4 hours ago. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. .223 Ballistics. I have a 3-18x 42 Illuminated with 35mm tube, and I have to say the optics quality is amazing. The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 You can shoot several well aimed shots with a.223 for each.243 shot from a bolt action and nail them while they are still in range. My Tikka T3 in .243, shooting 85gn Sierra gamekings, culled 8 Munties and 47 foxes last year ! The 22-250 is a great round as is the 243, the 223 just doesn't do it for me. People here on Pigeon Watch aren't trying to sell you anything. Not too many ranges around here longer than 100 yards, so .223 would be "adequate" I'm sure. The best all around varmint cartridge though is the .22-250. They are built in Romania, and use Schott lenses (German manufactured). Right now I've got a 223 AI barrel. shoul i get my handi rifle in .223 ir .243 i will be hunting deer,yotes,foxs,bobcats and potintuly wild hogs. I have owned 5 different .223 rifles, 1 22-250, and 5 different rifles in .243 Win. A quick video showcasing the 223 and 243 cartridges against my fake deer target. My largest stocks of ammo are, of course, .223 and .308. Just didn't know how much more distance I could get out of a 243? Posted by 4 hours ago. Meat damage is not excessive if you place the shot correctly. I just dont feel the love for Savage, although they are rumored to be shooters. Re: Bolt action .223 vs .243 for 100-200 yard target shooting .223 it is! What guns do you have already? .243 is a better deer round than the .223. And there was me me edgeing towards the .223. It is mostly up to you on personal preference and availability. The 243 was better in windy conditions. I've regularly shot muntjac with a .270, using Norma 130 grains. I appreciate all the advice guys I'm 90% sure I'm going for the .243, If it all gets to much for you take a walk out the back, i'm sure they have a spare room for you and you could shoot the Bunnies through the bars of your padded cell. The .243 win isn't as affected by wind as the other two calibers. When out shooting fallow I'm hardly going home to get the .243, when I see a muntjac. Thinking about the CZ-550 American with single set trigger in .243, but I have no real knowledge of this rifle other than my experience with the CZ-452 Varmint/17HMR (all good). Location: A big city with far too many cars and people. But, a .223 caliber rifle is enough to give you perfect hunting experience for a deer. I tend to use the .22-250 for most occasions, but the .243 is hard to beat for long range shots when the wind likes to buck a 43 grain .224 caliber bullet all over the place. I would say he has got your interest at heart but not fully aware of your situation.The thing is a .223 @1250 ft lbs doing 3250 FPS is just as lethal as .243 @2000 ftlbs doing 3500 fps .No way is shooting a smaller calibre going to be more forgiving but such is the choice of ammo in .243 that there is a very high chance you can develop a small round for fox and the smaller Deer species .Let's face it you'll either shooting one or the other and it's only a matter of noting the clicks moved on scope adjustment when shooting the heavier SP round . What I forgot to mention in my previous post was I am restricted to being accompanied by an experienced stalker for deer. #best accuracy with the longest range? Assuming you have a rimmy of some sort, I'd get the .243 because it covers the Deer species better. the jackals are about the same size as a coyote in here the U.S. and the springbok is about the size as a small deer here the 243 will be a flatter shooting and more fps.and more energy with a heavier slugs. The .223 Remington shoots small diameter, lightweight bullets at a very high velocity. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … 2 AR's and a bolt 223. for $5 a box for 20 223 rounds vs $30 for 20 243rds id take the 223 any day and just limit my shots to 250 and under. head shots, and be very picky about what bullet. If your not reloading .223. But at 300 yards and against even the most formidable coyote a .223 is plenty. First I would pick what style gun you want, if its an AR for sure then you are restricted to the calibers that are available, 22-250 not being one. The .243 win isn't as affected by wind as the other two calibers. Well done on getting what you asked for SS. I am not a fan of 223 for deer. My .243 belted me because of the weight of the rifle so if I tame it down a bit it will also work!! .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. Should I get a 223 or 243. Think of all the shooting you get to do. Shopping for a very accurate bolt action rifle in either .223 or .243 (I think), ambi stock, RH bolt, light weight, intended for large varmint & occasional deer hunting, probably off a tripod rest. I got my variation through the post last week (I was expecting a visit from my FLO with lots of questions) but they just sent it out with everything I asked for B) .223 for vermin & fox & .243 for fox & deer. Not too many ranges around here longer than 100 yards, so .223 would be "adequate" I'm sure. is the obvious winner. If you reload, hunting ammo is similar in cost for both rounds. 223 is cheaper. #best accuracy with the longest range? 223 vs 243 vs 270. I'm not a .223 fan.. Other than being economical.. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. 8 8. comments. The noticeable difference to me was the ammo cost, the 223 being lower vs 243. I own both a .223 rem (AR-15) and a .243 win (NEF handi-rifle), I have taken plenty of varmints with both as well as a few deer with the .243 win. .223 is plenty for coyote, and kills paper just as dead as anything else. all thou a 223 would be a good one for your needs too and probably cheaper for you than the 243 . The .243 Win. 6.5 creed is worth a look in my opinion. This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. The US sales arm of IOR is Valdada Website. First off, as the OP notes, the straight our ballistics questions is clear. I would go for the .243 if I had to choose. $250 plus some scope mounts/rings. .243 could be used for,Paper targets, Coyotes, Deer. In your case for Ohio I would go with the 223 in that rifle rather than the 243, unless you may venture out of Ohio to hunt deer, and prong horn, the the 243 Win is a far better cartridge. Upload or insert images from URL. September 18, 2007 in Guns & Equipment. Another vote for the .243 .......Ideally you'll need to get in to homeloading to get the best potential Fox round and this calibre comes with a very broad portfolio in that department......For Deer the 105 grn SP factory ammo should be OK there. that will add up to another £1000 quid with it dressed and the rest. Paste as plain text instead, × Not shooting normal loads anyway. .243 thoughts, I all ready have a 243 in a pump, however another in a bolt gun wouldnt hurt. The cost of 243 brass is almost twice that of the 223 cases, but you don't lose them in a bolt gun and are reusable a good number of times. I might of miss lead you, I could say that most of the Monkeys i've shot have not had as much meat damage as the one you took the other week so don't be to put of by that. What I did notice, was that they died cleanly and quickly. theres the dilema and a half. I worked up some reloads for the 300 Savage some 125 grain Hornady SST's because the weight of the Savage 99 recoil wasn't bad at all about like shooting my Marlin 30-30. sorry about that what I should have said is Legally you can and obviously there are a lot of people who shoot up to Red hinds with them ok a bigger caliber gives you more certainty. I shoot both and reload for both, if you are buying good hunting ammo, I don't really see that much difference in price. share. Having said all that, it'd pick the 223.   Your previous content has been restored. Or compromise and get the 6x45. I've owned and shot both as a varmint hunter. Go with the 223. The .223 Remington shoots small diameter, lightweight bullets at a very high velocity. Want to shoot 243? i have the 4-14x50 ill mp8. There is alot of talk of .223 being passed for the small deer species & my dilemma is whether to go with the .223 or .243. My Savage .223 is probably my favorite gun that I own. 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. The best all around varmint cartridge though is the .22-250. The .243 will hold velocity and retain accuracy further than any of the.22s. Ammo will cost more than .223. 223 is what I shoot the most of. The 223 or even 243 in most cases don’t kill as quickly and in almost all cases doesn’t leave the blood trail that a larger caliber dies. Right now I've got a 223 AI barrel. It's cheaper to shoot and very accurate (not that the 243 is not). With the 200 grain subsonic, recoil on the 300 Blackout is just barely more than 223 if you have same-weight rifles. Pigeon Watch Ltd. But when it comes to deer, why not just get a 30 caliber gun and call it a day. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Nonetheless, I hope that reviews about it Super Rifle Jeans Vintage And 223 Or 243 Rifle will become useful. I have shot no end of Muntjac and never noticed too much meat damage. Not a varmint bullet) you will be fine. Want to shoot 243? Not to say that a .223 couldn't handle it, but it's something to take into consideration when you're taking advice from people who may shoot coyotes half the size of what you may be shooting. IMHO a 243 is a overkill for yotes. The .243 will hold velocity and retain accuracy further than any of the.22s. From a cost effective standpoint for yotes and paper the .223 slaps the .243 in the face. Personally (and this is my opinion) I would stick with the .243 for deer. I love my .223’s, but I would never take any of them deer hunting. Remember it's not uncommon to struggle focusing on a fine crossair at night. Savage 22-250 and look no further. Should I get a 223 or 243. 8 8. comments. Mate i reckon go for the 223. In non-pandemic times, the .223 Rem. When i got my .243 its was not an option to shoot small Deer with .223 but if i was in your shoes i would still go .243 and keep that Roe/Fallow option. Even though there is a price diff in ammo between .223 & .243 you are not going to be spraying bullets around all the time so cost isn't realy a factor, as it will take a lot of shoots to mount up to the same as buying 2 rifles if you later go for a .308 for Fallow and Reds. I need a new toy, First off, It needs to be a lefty. That is my choice- TC Encore. If you aren't keeping pelts, the 243 puts coyotes down harder. I'm not shooting varmint bullets so might be carrying a tad more energy downrange. I don't care about barrel life... With the manufacturers making rifles with faster twists for the .22-250s now you shoot heavier bullets and outclass the .223... Well, Upstate, now you've gone and done it. Pelty's usual gun shop in Barnet, he's alot cheaper than my local. Your .223 will only collect dust if you get both I feel. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. The only advantage the 223 has is cheap surplus ammo (well, it use to be cheap) can sometimes be found. Seemed like 223 would be the way to go. Unfortunately they had just sold there last Tikka, I would stick with the PW advice so far, and go for the .243. .243 will more than likely be your typical rifle platform. I have .223, .243, 30/30 and even a Savage 99 in 300 Savage. all this depends on what bullet weight your shooting but 22-250 will out shoot a 223 and be knocking on the back door of the 243. Not enough crack for me. Fairer to say that TEC is apparently not particularly experienced with bolt action centerfire rifles. The 243 has a wider range of bullet weights allowing for use on varmints or medium size game animals. Performance varies with barrel length, but typical .223 ballistics with factory ammo are a 50gr bullet at 3,345fps (1,242 ft-lbs), a 55gr bullet at 3,240fps (1,282 ft-lbs), and a 62gr bullet at 3,100fps (1,323 ft-lbs)..308 Ballistics The 243 does sound pretty good sounds like I will get more milage out of it. In terms of comfort, the .223 Rem. Oh, and I used the 243 on whitetail deer, because I wasn't comfortable using the 223 round. That is my choice- TC Encore. I don't know what to tell you. Yes a 243 will work too, but it costs 3x as much to shoot and is overkill when it comes to rabbits. .223 Ballistics. To me a centrefire is overkill for rabbits etc though some winged vermin its pretty handy. Jim, your 223 is EXACTLY what I'm going for. I got fed up with the lack of calibres available in left-hand rifles, and the .223 is pretty universal. And would love to add one of the new Ruger AR-556 rifles to my .223 collection, if my wife lets me. thanks I plan going coyote hunting with my dad the 223 because it's faster and ammo's cheaper here in Wyoming but I plan on going deer hunting too so i won't have to buy two guns. .243 is a fine round. .22 C/F for small deer species is here in October. I cant decide whether to go for a 223 or 243! Like you said, you want a dedicated coyote gun and a typical rifle platform is going to be just that, dedicated to hunting..223 can be either a typical rifle platform or you can build an AR platform rifle. I have had 3 smaller shooters (2 ladies and a kid) shoot my relatively light tikka with 120 grain bullets and no one has complained about recoil. For longer range applications, the .243 is ballistically superior. Quote Reply Topic: .223 or .243 Posted: November/19/2008 at 20:56 hey guys! 243 is more fun in my opinion. I've ditched the .222 and put in for a variation for a .223, to have a punchier fox/vermin rifle (as I won't be handloading, the running costs of a .22-250 are too steep). If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. Speaking to people they think the bigger calibre is to much for small deer, causing unnecessary meat damage. report. The .223 is a smaller bullet not just in size but, a good deal in weight and does not have the range or power that the .243 has. From what i've read, the 22-250 is a step up from the 223 and the 243 is 2-3 steps up from the 22-250. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. The very knowledgeable owner of the shop asked me a few questions, what I'd be intending to shoot etc... And he advised me to go with the .223 as its being cleared for CWD & Muntjac in October. Many hunters are looking for higher caliber for hunting now a day. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. By .243 IMO is a bit heavy. Close. but a .243 works good I have to agree with you on the quality of scopes here. I have all of the following calibers .243 .223 22.250 and 6.5 creedmor. groundhogs yeah cause 98% you hit the ground but coyote you send that clean through it and into the woods or fields still doing 2k fps with the 243. Powered by Invision Community, People here on Pigeon Watch aren't trying to sell you anything. Others are the 30-06, and the US 30 Gov are the same, the 308 and the 7.62x51mm are the same. hide. both calibers are capable well beyond 300 yards with heavy bullets and a fast barrels. isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). That means it will be more precise at long range, though there are better rifle chamberings purely for long-range target work and varminting (.22-250 and .243 Winchester come to mind). .243 atleast if you ever fancy a go at roe,fallow youll have the kit already,youll be supprised how tough little muntys are not saying a 223 struggles to drop them i just like to have a do everything rifle would be very frustrating being out and only be able to take muntys when for a sake of a slightly bigger caliber you could stalk all legally .243 thoughts, I all ready have a 243 in a pump, however another in a bolt gun wouldnt hurt. 243 all the way - i use it for both and the occasional rabbit B) , like others have said its an ideal round - 55grn - 75grn ballistic tips for foxing and 80grn - 100+ grn soft nose for deer ( i've knocked quite a few fallow over with mine ). Whoever told you .243 was too much for small deer was talking rubbish. Gotta be .243 all the way...you never say never.Bit of roe stalking may come your way and then you,ll be thinking ahh *****r B). save. There seems to be this myth always leading to a 55 gn bullet.. Saying this we were in the shop chatting for 45 mins & I genuinely believe he had my best interest at heart. A .223 is a big Rabbit gun, do you need that sort of range? Whatever you do make sure you get a stock that fits her. The best .223 rifle will be a versatile and capable firearm that will allow you to legitimately use it for plinking, target shooting, hunting and even for home defense if you are inclined to use a small caliber high powered rifle for home defense (see our notes about that a little lower in the article).. 6.5 creed is worth a look in my opinion. will blow up a groundhog and drop a coyote in its tracks. plus im not a fan of sending a bigger faster bullet through something. The ideal bullet in .243 for fox shooting is the 62 Grain Varmint Grenade (powdered Tin Copper composite) or a heavier standard lead bullet where there is a nice flat trajectory with very little wind deflection. wins in a landslide. The .243 isn't readily available in the SS configuration I like, so I'm trying to decide if I should just pick up a SS in .223, or get the blued version (with the tan stock) in .243. and i think if it wasn't for the ar-15 type guns, the 223 would not be as … save. that will add up to another £1000 quid with it dressed and the rest. Since you say that you want this gun for fox and rabbits primarily, the 223 is a no brainer. The other option as someone else mentioned is a switch barrel gun. The 223 is more than capable of yotes past 500 yards with ease. its outstanding clarity and light gathering capabilities are extremley good. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The 223 is more than capable of yotes past 500 yards with ease. Ammo will cost more than .223. Synthetic & s/steel Tikka T3 & T8 mod any good? The .243 isn't readily available in the SS configuration I like, so I'm trying to decide if I should just pick up a SS in .223, or get the blued version (with the tan stock) in .243. I’m sure a .243 or even the .223 will kill quickly with good bullet placement. I can get a .223 cal 36 grain Varmint Grenade at 4040 fps to fly as flat as the 58 Grain VMax in .243 but with even a little wind, it's poor beyond 100 yards. As for the scope well it'd have to be a leupold with a standard duplex cross air as it's the states but I'd recommend Europeon Glass like a schmidt and that is really expensive ,in fact alot dearer over the pond . I'd go 243 and spend less on the scope (although I … You can post now and register later. hide. Every bit as good. Velocity. And Ive, do you rate Leupold over US Optics/Zeiss Conquest? Excellent fox/deer round with such a variety of bullets and weights available. Better to have more and not use it,than to want more and not have it available. share. Personally I'd leave vermin to rimfire and go .243 then you have all bases and species covered if you decide to shoot deer other than muntjack. 300 Blackout vs 223 Recoil. The scopes ara a little. 600yds doesn't seem like much of a problem for .223 on yotes. I can't see myself shooting the bigger deer, but then again before I joined Pigeon Watch I certainly couldn't see myself getting a firearms licence & owning ferrets, where's it all gonna end. A deer culler can say after shooting a couple thousand animals that 223 is enough gun for deer and it is, but in inexperienced hands a few inches makes a difference. Carry weight, and a gun thats just fun to shoot at the range. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. My situation is a bit odd, perhaps. The 243 has a wider range of bullet weights allowing for use on varmints or medium size game animals. Re: .223 vs .243 please. I'm thinking Remington 700. However depending on the rifle's rate of twist the 243 will probably prefer a … Should I get a 223 or 243. I will predominantly be shooting rabbits & foxes & hopefully a few muntjac. The other option as someone else mentioned is a switch barrel gun. It is plenty big enough for muntjack with a well done bullet. i bought a .223 and asked the same question and someone said you CAN kill with a .223 if u have a heavier grain bullet like a 65 or 70gr but where i come from the highest you can get off the shelf is a 55gr. I do like the .223 for the cheap ammo and with my barrel twist the lower grain the better.   Your link has been automatically embedded. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. I have never owned .223, but have .222, and if ever I am going foxing I always pick up the .243, it is one of the most versatile rounds, I disagree with the statement made by al4x by the way, about "you can do all species of deer ", personally I always pick. from what I've heard and seen in pictures, coyotes around NY tend to be bigger than coyotes in most other areas of the country. From what i've read, the 22-250 is a step up from the 223 and the 243 is 2-3 steps up from the 22-250. First I would pick what style gun you want, if its an AR for sure then you are restricted to the calibers that are available, 22-250 not being one. I would say the 223 is an experts caliber. It is mostly up to you on personal preference and availability. Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. I will mainly be using the gun for fox plus deer hopefully! He had a vast armoury of stock & there was a nice new Titan 3 what are these like any good? Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. You then have to work up loads for the .223, .243 varmint round, and .243 hunting round. I use the .243 for coyotes and groundhogs, and do the same with the .22-250. A photo I took to show a family member the size difference in the 55 grain .223 cartridge and the 100 grain .243 Winchester cartridge...with my keys sitting next to them for scale.   You cannot paste images directly. "Agricultural" in that they are as solid as a rock, you feel you could drive a truck over them without damaging the scope. The choice is obvious. 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